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Behe and Catholic YECs

October 13, 2009

Hugh Miller was a Scottish stonemason and popularizer of geology who wrote a number of excellent books in the 1800′s that argued against scriptural geologists and sought a truce between science and religion. You can read a little more about him here. There is a modern Hugh Miller who apparently is a “research chemist” (BS in chemistry) in Colombus OH who believes that “[l]ong before Answers in Genesis’s museum and its director Ken Ham were born major museums were aware that dinosaurs and man coexisted. He’s a Catholic young earther who has produced a paper that used radiocarbon dating on dinosaur remains:

RECENT C-14 DATING OF FOSSILS INCLUDING DINOSAUR BONE COLLAGEN. Are the results a confirmation of rapid formation of the geologic column as modern sedimentology studies have predicted?

The discovery of collagen in a Tyrannosaurus-rex dinosaur femur bone was recently reported in the journal Science. Its geologic location was the Hell Creek Formation in the State of Montana, United States of America. When it was learned in 2005 that Triceratops and Hadrosaur femur bones in excellent condition were discovered by the Glendive (MT) Dinosaur & Fossil Museum, Hugh Miller asked and received permission to saw them in half and collect samples for C-14 testing of any bone collagen that might be extracted. Indeed both bones contained collagen and conventional dates of 30,890 ± 380 radiocarbon years (RC) for the Triceratops and 23,170 ±170 RC years for the Hadrosaur were obtained using the Accelerated Mass Spectrometer (AMS). Total organic carbon and/or dinosaur bone bio-apatite was then extracted and pretreated to remove potential contaminants and concordant radiocarbon dates were obtained, all of which were similar to radiocarbon dates for megafauna.

Miller’s work is to appear in “the proceedings of an international conference on evolution” featuring Catholic scientists from Germany, Italy, US, Poland and France. Other papers in the volume titeld “Evolutionary Theory: A Critical Analysis” include:

  • The second law of thermodynamics excludes evolution
  • Experiments in stratification do not support evolution
  • Is radiometric dating reliable?
  • The concept of evolution in biology
  • Race formation and mutations do not constitute steps in evolution
  • Critical reflections of evolutionism as a scientific or pseudo-scientifc theory and as an atheist ideology
  • Philosophic-theological prerequisits of the evolution theory
  • The Negative Impact of the evolutionary hypothesis on scientific research.

There’s a summary of the meeting here but suffice it to say that it includes such folks as Guy Berthault and Maciej Giertych.

The real fun is that Behe is talking at another meeting with Miller and other YEC Catholics. I wonder if he will take the time to publicly set the YECs straight? Probably not.

Update (10/14): John Pieret has more details on Miller.

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  1. John Wilkins
    October 13, 2009 at 1:19 pm | #1

    errgghhh…

  2. DLC
    October 14, 2009 at 1:31 pm | #2

    Unbelievable. Behe pulls the standard creationist canards and expects no one to notice that they’ve been refuted dozens of times ? This is truly willful ignorance.

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