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A new ID journal.

May 1, 2010

Looks like the DI-funded Biologic Institute (see here and here) has come up with its ownID-friendly” journal, BIO-Complexity with the usual suspects on the editorial team. The DI chimes in that the “editorial board is composed of an international group of scientists with differing views about the merits of ID. But all are committed to a fair and honest assessment of the question.” I’m willing to guess that most (all?) Twenty-two of the 29 have signed the Dissent from Darwin list. Of course, this isn’t the first time that Dembski and buddies attempted to start their own journal – and that first attempt didn’t exactly end in glory.

The good news is that maybe the promised Nelson & Dembski paper could be submitted to the new venue as it is surely the “best peer-reviewed biology journal we can find” ?

Update: I’ve just remembered that there is another ID-friendly, peer-reviewed journal out there, one that is a “professional, peer-reviewed technical journal for the publication of interdisciplinary scientific and other relevant research”.

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  1. May 1, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    The “Editor in Chief” is Matti Leisola, who was a presenter at the 8th European Creationist Congress and gave a speech entitled “30 years as a non-evolutionist.” Those conferences have been organized by Creation Conferences, that gives its mission as “Promoting Biblical Creation and its relevance today through regional and national conferences.” In addition, Leisola was identified by Creation Ministries International, a young-Earth creationist organization, as one of the “biblical creationists” who appeared in its opus, Son of Expelled … er … The Voyage That Shook The World.

  2. May 1, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    As I pointed out on AtBC, Leisola doesn’t work at the Helsinki University of Technology – he can’t because it doesn’t exist any more. Impressive professionalism, there.

    One should also feel some sympathy for Anne Gauger – she only become copy editor whilst the big boys are all editors.

  3. darwinsbulldog
    May 1, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    22 of the 29 have signed the Dissent from Darwin list

  4. May 1, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    darwinsbulldog :

    22 of the 29 have signed the Dissent from Darwin list

    As I suspected. I’d have checked myself had I not been grading. Now how many are YECs?

  5. darwinsbulldog
    May 1, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Oh I’m not going to try and figure that out!

  6. RBH
    May 1, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Wonder why they didn’t resuscitate Progress in Information, Complexity, and Design.

  7. May 1, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    RBH :

    Wonder why they didn’t resuscitate Progress in Information, Complexity, and Design.

    They don’t have the power to resurrect the dead. That corpse is well beyond resuscitation.

  8. May 1, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    darwinsbulldog :

    Oh I’m not going to try and figure that out!

    In my day, grad students weren’t slackers :)

  9. Michael Fugate
    May 1, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    They are all boys – wow.
    And they even proselytize on their university web pages: http://people.rit.edu/wfbsma/faith.html
    Shouldn’t Sternberg list baraminology instead of cladistics as his area of expertise?

  10. James F
    May 1, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Wait, what? Loren Haarsma is on the editorial board? I thought he was one of the good guys. John, RBH, any insight on this?

  11. RBH
    May 1, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Haarsma regards some issues raised by ID as scientifically interesting:

    In fact, the scientific claims of ID are some of the most interesting questions in all of science. Is it probable that first life could have self-assembled on the early earth via “chemical evolution,” and if so can we figure out a reasonable sequence of steps in detail? Is it probable that something like the bacteria flagellum could have evolved, and if so can we figure out a reasonable sequence of steps in detail? These are valid scientific questions. Many scientists believe that the answer to these questions is, “yes, I think so, even though we can’t prove it right now.” ID advocates try to construct purely scientific arguments that the answers to those questions are “no, those things are highly improbable given only natural mechanisms.”

  12. May 1, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    In fairness, Ann Gauger gets to be copyeditor.

  13. darwinsbulldog
    May 1, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    John M. Lynch :

    darwinsbulldog :
    Oh I’m not going to try and figure that out!

    In my day, grad students weren’t slackers

    As of next week, I’m no longer a grad student! Plus, I’ve got some Tyndall letters to transcribe…

  14. May 2, 2010 at 2:39 am

    In my day, grad students weren’t slackers

    As of next week, I’m no longer a grad student!

    Does that mean a soon to be Dr.Bulldog?

  15. darwinsbulldog
    May 2, 2010 at 6:38 am

    Oh, no, not a Dr. I will have my MA in history, next degree will be an MA in science education with an emphasis on museums… hence the internship at Oregon Museum of Science and Industry this summer..

  16. May 2, 2010 at 8:39 am

    So it’s just a Master Bulldawg!

  17. carlsonjok
    May 2, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Of course, this isn’t the first time that Dembski and buddies attempted to start their own journal – and that first attempt didn’t exactly end in glory.

    Are you referring to JOEI (Journal of Evolutionary Informatics) which never published an issue?

    Don’t forget Origins and Design which has been on hiatus for close to a decade.

  18. darwinsbulldog
    May 2, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Thony C. :
    So it’s just a Master Bulldawg!

    Master, maybe. Expert, no.

  19. May 2, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    “As I pointed out on AtBC, Leisola doesn’t work at the Helsinki University of Technology – he can’t because it doesn’t exist any more. Impressive professionalism, there.”

    That’s right. Helsinki University of Technology was renamed as “Aalto University School of Science and Technology” in the beginning of this year.

    http://www.tkk.fi/en/

  20. Reynold
    May 2, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Well, at least one person has faith that they’ll come up with something.

    Too bad his commentators sure as hell don’t buy it… ;)

  21. Michael Fugate
    May 3, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    I see our old buddy Steve Fuller has a commentary at the Guardian…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/may/03/science-religion-intelligent-design

  22. May 3, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    He includes the obligatory “Buy my book”.

  23. May 3, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    And did you Bob? Did you buy the book? :)

  24. May 3, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    I haven’t even bought The Spatula Brain.

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