Data-free framing courtesy of Nisbet
Matt Nisbet has coughed up yet another post on PZ and framing. It begins:
You don’t have to be a social scientist to recognize that the distribution of opinion among people who comment at Scienceblogs is very different from the perspective found among the wider science community and even among leaders in the atheist movement.
As I pointed out:
This is a little data-free, now isn’t it? No information on views "among the wider science community" and a link to a single comment by D.J. Grothe (who may or may nor be a leader "in the atheist movement"). As I said before, the issue here is not atheism (something which, may I say, I’m ambivalent about). You just seem to think it is. And that "framing" device seems to suit your needs.
The underlying motif of Nisbet’s post is simple – people here at Scienceblogs aren’t giving me any respect, but look folks, I get to wander around the country (Princeton!) telling people about "framing" and they like me, they really really like me. So, I’ll repeat my challenge to Matt:
As a self-appointed expert on how to deal with creationists, Nisbet needs to buy a clue. He’s like that annoying person who continually says "you’re doing it wrong" without actually rolling up his sleeves and helping out. He’s convinced of his own correctness and, frankly, his condescending tone is getting annoying. While he’s wandering around the country, yapping on about "framing" and how the scientists are doing it wrong, some of us scientists are actually attempting to get something done; attempting to educate the public, to educate our students, and to work against creationist incursions into public school curricula. That is, we are actively "promoting science" – which is more than Nisbet is doing.
So what about it Matt? What about doing something practical? Something beyond "you’re doing it wrong." What about doing some grass-roots work with activists in Florida or Texas?